Standards Telecon - PDS Version ID/Local Data Dictionary - 6/11/2003 Standards Telecon, 11 June 2003 9:03 Start Attendees C.Acton T.Brown L.Hall L.Huber S.Hughes S.Joy R.Joyner T.King A.Raugh B.Semenov S.Slavney R.Simpson B.Sword Pre-meeting: Laverne mentions that tech group will have to plan their tech session if they want want with the next MC. T.Brown runs down plan to hold half-day summary session for reporting and maybe discuss one or two specific topics. Updated LDD SCR: No comments on changes made since last week. T.Brown calls for vote of those present for sending on to MC. NAIF - Abstain Atmos - Yes PPI - Yes Ron - Yes (as System Engineer) SBN - No Betty - Abstain (as CN) GEO - Yes T.Brown notes we don't have a quorum of nodes represented as yet. Final tally will wait until end of meeting. Version ID Draft SCR: Lead will be Joyner, not Raugh. Ron runs through Dick Simpson's emailed comments- 1. Need criteria and procedure. Ron notes that the SCR contains an outline for this. 2. Dick notes that the PDS_VERSION_ID should correspond to design version, not production version. Ron agrees, adding implication that the PDS_VERSION_ID must be approved by PDS engineer as part design process. Ron suggests replacing "produced" with "designed and approved" throughout the SCR. 3. Fractional versions are not fully addressed. Ron says this is inherently accounted for in the process of getting approval of PDS_VERSION_ID value. Steve H. notes that this is more an issue of how the standards are versioned - that PDS_VERSION_ID must merely reflect the standards level. Lyle wants to be able to continue to use "PDS3" in labels as long as they are compliant with the older standards. This prompted a general discussion about whether new labels designed after this change can continue to use the generic "PDS3" level, or will be forced to use the specific standard level. No convergence. Todd asks how this relates to the DD version. Ron notes that the SR version is in the DD. This does not define a unique DD, however, since the DD changes much more rapidly. Steve H. wonders if a DD identifier is also necessary in labels. He notes that the PDS_VERSION_ID is both a syntactical and semantic indicator. Ron notes that with local DDs, the DD file will be created and delivered with the data. Todd notes that electronic distribution will defeat this solution because the physical association will not necesarily be preserved. Todd mentions the Impact statement, and whether it reflects the true impact of having changing PDS_VERSION_ID numbers. Boris re-iterates his desire to continue to be able to produce "PDS3" labels indefinitely. Steve H. suggests the SCR be re-written to specifically allow this, and to provide a specific definition of PDS3. Steve H. also suggests that the SCR also explicitly NOT support versions prior to PDS3. 9:36 Dick Simpson asks whether things like SPREADSHEET will be grandfathered into 3.5, or will be 3.6; and will PDS_VERSION_ID = PDS3 include or exclude SPREADSHEET. CN agrees this should be "PDS3_6" for missions planning to use latest approved changes. General concern about ambiguity of version cut-off. Anne suggests that this is a CN configuration management issue, and that CN should solve it ASAP so that nodes can anticipate version changes and development deadlines. CN already has this on its internal agenda. Ron asks for a single sentence about grandfathering PDS3. Dick S. asks about his concern that this SCR does not actually set criteria for establishing version, it only addresses how to determine PDS_VERSION_ID value. Steve H. notes that is a different, larger issue, whereas the present SCR is to address only the local DD requirement that PDS_VERSION_ID indicate a change. Dick S. feels this SCR glosses over the change. Steve H. summarizes issues open so far: 1. Configuration Control - a CN issue being worked 2. Policy for incrementing standards version ID. Steve H. believes this is a separable issue. 3. Indicating standards version in labels (this SCR) 4. Mechanism for indicating DDs used in labels - open. Ron suggests adding text stating that for labels which adhere to standards version 3.5 or earlier, "PDS3" is the appropriate value. General discussion about progress of local DD SCR if this does or doesn't pass, and whether this is the appropriate place to start addressing the above issues. No time to converge. T.Brown returns to vote on Local DD Issue: Atmos - Yes GEO - Yes Image - Not Present NAIF - Abstain PPI - Yes RS - Yes Rings - Not Present SBN - No Proj Eng - Yes CN - Yes Vote passes 6-1-3 9:59 End